Lesson 1: Never keep more than $100,000 in an account at one bank. That means if you put $100,000 and it accumulates interest, anything over the $100K amount is not covered.
If a bank goes insolvent, the FDIC has the option to pay each insured deposit (which is treated as a liability on the balance sheet) and then collect whatever it can by liquidating the bank’s assets (which includes loans) or help another bank assume the deposits and loans of the failed bank.
Believe it or not, bank failures are not unusual. In normal circumstances the depositors rarely ever feel the bite of a bank going kaput – they either collect or more often their account ends up whole at another bank. But this is George Bush’s America – and nothing, but nothing can be considered normal.
Could the FDIC handle a landslide of bank failures at once?
Basic Banking 101 – banks are not required to keep all the money you deposit with them in reserve. They only have to keep a portion, the rest is lent out for mortgages, car loans etc. This is in a nutshell how a bank operates and makes money. The FDIC also does not keep dollar-for-dollar matching reserves for every bank in the US. A combination of statistics, history, and economic factors determine the proper level of reserves the FDIC needs to set. In 2007, the FDIC held 1.2% of all deposits in reserve. That means for every $100 dollars held by member banks, the FDIC can cover $1.20 in losses. That was about $52 billion in reserve.
When Bear Stearns collapsed, the FDIC was asked to cover $400 billion in bad loans (not necessarily payout, but some complicated formula of insurance, coverage, write-offs etc) which is nearly 8 times greater than the FDIC reserve. That was ONE bank. What if Citibank, Wachovia and Bank of America all went into default at once? Could that mean the FDIC would literally run out of money? Is the agency established to protect bank bankruptcies capable of going bankrupt itself?
Here is the reality: The FDIC is that it has never supervised a bank failure which exceeded 175,000 accounts. A financial tsunami of many major bank failures will make Katrina look like a drizzle – I don’t think people will be saying, "Bernanke, you are doing a helluva job." Today some of the larger banks have more than 50 million depositors, which will make the FDIC's job nearly impossible.
Congress could act to prevent a complete meltdown – but the dominoes would be set and nothing would be able to prevent some sort of gigantic seismic event in the financial system. And anything Congress does to fund a bankrupt FDIC cannot be done in a vacuum.
Congress is funding a war right now to the tune of $12 billion a month. Hard to imagine it would cut funding to Iraq, since the weenies in Congress are petrified to look weak and are scared of the big bad president.
Congress (ok technically the Treasury) is paying the interest on debt incurred by the US Government for general operations – operations that have RUN at a deficit since George Bush took office. You want the US to shut down? And who is funding that deficit – one guess – c’mon. Yes, what if China decided saw this cataclysmic banking crisis looming on the horizon and decided to dump all its treasury holdings.
Lesson 2: The FDIC is NOT a government agency, it is a private corporation. It cannot print money.
In addition - according to the law, Congress cannot just give the FDIC money (see Lesson 2) to keep the insurer of banks solvent – it can only loan the FDIC money. Which of course means that money would have to be drawn from the markets, thus creating a cash crunch and raising interest rates as money becomes harder to secure for private industry.
OK things are looking bad -- No money, no China, no good leadership.
The FDIC is in deep doody since it cannot cover all the losses. But what about you -- the depositor? Just like in It’s A Wonderful Life, you will hightail it down to Wachovia and demanded your cash immediately – you are insured. The depositors have created a classic bank run.
It gets better.
While the law states the FDIC has to pay you, it only has to make you good “as soon as possible.” Depositor have a seat, Godot is on his way.
Some foreign banks and investment firms have recently said that they expect 150 or so US banks to fail in the near future. That number is high, but it was higher in the 1980’s. If things continue to march along this downward spiral – that 150 might be the low end. From 2004 to 2006 there were NO bank failures. But with the year-long mortgage crisis, oil prices skyrocketing to luxury good level, and the US debt increasing as it funds an endless and useless war – many banks will not be able to get cast from the capital markets to replace money that has been lost to bad credit.
It looks really bad – but it hasn’t reach the level of the John McCain Savings & Loan scandal of the 1980’s – whereas 1,000 banks failed in 1988-89. But the US government is trying real hard to get there. And if we elect McCain, he might just lead us down the bank meltdown road for a second time.
If banks begin to fall like dominoes, expect this recession to be one of the worst economic periods outside the 1931 depression, and expect to be a long long one.
As economist Nouriel Roubini said:
One has to realize that there is now a rising probability of a 'catastrophic' financial and economic outcome, i.e. a vicious circle where a deep recession makes the financial losses more severe and where, in turn, large and growing financial losses and a financial meltdown make the recession even more severe.
Lesson 3: FDIC insurance does not cover the contents of safe deposit boxes, insurance policies, annuities, stocks, bonds, mutual funds, and similar types of investments purchased through a financial institution, regardless of whether you own them directly, through a retirement plan, or through a trust.
Go buy a good mattress -- since we're fucked you might as well have it serve its two natural purposes.







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Mission Accomplished! Now let's all go shopping!
Lesson 3. Sometime during the Reagoon admin they changed the rules on the FDIC. They will only cover $100K max for all your bank accounts. If you have 2 or more accounts in seperate banks worth more than the 100K then that's all you get if they both fail.
My guess is you'll get an IOU for it in the first place. God this could be ugly.
Okay, THANK YOU !!! I see Robert left another link and so did Sans Pantaloons,& I'll share those with you guys but I have to feed the "kids" & I'll be right back.
BTW, what happens to retirement funds which are in Government Securities in a worse case scenario?
Heh. Makes it almost funny to not have money in the bank to worry about.
As usual - an insightful, well-researched piece. I learn something new here every time you post.
Hi Cap;
Thanks for the post, I suspected as much but some of the details I was ignorant of.
With all this garbage going on, a young able bodied person with an education should scrape through but people on fixed income, ie: pension with limited savings, is it the pillow they should hide it in or do they buy a cheap Chinese made wall safe?
Good information, DCap. And I say that as someone who, in a former life, worked for the RTC a few years. Remember the RTC, it was the quasi-gov't corporation that was responsible for handling the savings and loan mess. Sadly, there are lots of people who made a lot of money while others suffered (that would be us, the taxpayers).
frightening...just frightening...makes me worry what will happen when W bombs Iran and we know it is going to happen before November. When Iran attacks Israel it is going to be WWIII and all bets are off. What is one to do?
Hi, okay I asked Robert to link what he found on Paulson, hopefully he will. Mike found this today:
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and this is from Sans Pantaloon:
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Thanks again Dcap.
with the value of the dollar nowadays, i think it has more worth as mattress stuffing than it does at the checkout of the supermarket.
There's another way for the FDIC to get money, and that's to borrow it from the Federal Reserve. I.e., for the Fed to print it.
The reality is that Bank of America simply would not be allowed to go Chapter 13. They will go Chapter 11 and write down their bad loans, and likely would need to borrow from the Federal Reserve to meet their payment obligations to their depositors, but as you point out, there is simply no way that they could be allowed to be totally dissolved. The banking system would completely cease to exist.
All this of course is due to Carter and Reagan era deregulation. Before deregulation, banks were not allowed to operate across state lines, so no bank could become so big that its collapse could threaten the solvency of the nation's entire financial system. Indeed, in many states banks weren't allowed to operate across county lines in order to prevent any bank becoming big enough to threaten the state's financial system. Deregulation ended all this, and I hesitate to think what the collapse is going to do to us...
Buy Euros.
Buy Gold.
Avoid keeping all of your savings/retirement money in US dollars.
If you're able to, acquire a second passport. Dual nationality will save your ass if you ever need to get out of this nightmare of a nation.
Be prepared.
Hi Cap;
Henry Paulson spoke in London
"Paulson’s speech largely focused on his plans to strengthen the unwinding process for large insolvent financial institutions to allow “orderly” failures.
Paulson said financial institutions face a tough earnings environment as they adjust to changes brought about by high oil prices and the housing slowdown. He reiterated his call for banks to strengthen balance sheets by raising new capital, de-leveraging or reviewing dividend policies."
http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/080702/usa_paulson_economy.html.
Orderly Failures and preparation of, that is official confirmation in my mind. They know there are going to be huge failures and it doesn't look like the bail out machine will work this time.
No wonder they call it the F Dic.
Holy Shit-ola!!! Where IN God's Green Acres did you learn to write like that! Gimmee a break or gimmee your autograph and sure as shit tell us all when the books start showing up at Barnes&Noble!
Gees, have a great day&all!
*psssshhhhhh.*
That's the steam rising from this post because it's hot. Wow! I'm not sure where to clap or freak the fuck out. Let me ask you this...would help any to move our money out of the American bank it's currently in and into a non-US bank like HSBC?
I'm okjimm and all the others paying you homage. Nice work.
The title of your post scared the hell out of me. I thought you were going to riff on some bizarre Bush/Condi tryst, but luckily it was merely about how we're all fucked, financially. Whew!
Such a cheerful thing to wake up to this morning...
One silver lining for this is that the average savings of Americans is currently negative. What would happen if hundreds of creditors collapsed and no one was willing/capable of buying the outstanding debt? I'm sure it's not as rosy as Fight Club would have us hope...
Thank you for one hell of a great post. You explained this mess in a concise and knowledgeable way so even someone like me who eyes glaze over when the complex economic matters are brought up. My only problem now is an even stronger desire to get drunk.
I was hoping for a review of the play "once upon a mattress" but your post turned out to be so much better.
I do want to correct you in that there are actually THREE uses for a mattress.
Although I've been married for some time, I fondly remember the item you accidentally excluded.
Bravo, DCap--you are on fire, sir. "Depositor have a seat, Godot is on his way." Pure gold, buddy.
Of course, the truth is horrifying. It's like we're in a boat, getting closer and closer to that precipitous waterfall, and only a few informed souls know how fucked we truly are. The rest are planning to vote McFossil and feeling "patriotic." We are truly screwed.
Excellent post DCap. There's also one more teensy thing.
Due to the way money cycles through the Fed Banks and the ACH system, there is really no geographic "curb" to stop a cascade failure. For example, should there be a failure of say 400,000 accounts in the Eastern Seaboard, it actually affects the balances throughout the whole Fed system.
This is also true if some foreign power like China quits buying T-Bills, creating a shortage in liquidity.
Wow, a great post and many great follow up comments. The money I have in the bank is worth less and less, the house we have paid off is losing value as well. Welcome to poverty all due to the incompetence of the Bush administration blowhards. Back in the 1990s we were doing so well and feeling so good but the seems like eons ago to me now.
This was very interesting. My father in law and I were having breakfast the other day and he was saying that he expected a financial disaster in our country, similar to a nationwide Katrina in the next two years. That scared the hell out of me because he has been right about the markets and economics ever since I met the man.
What you said echoes a lot of what he said, except for the part about the mattress. He told me to buy ammo, plenty of ammo, to be ready for the food riots.
Hmmm... I am thinking that my lack of resources could actually work in my favor.
Seriously though- as always, you did a great job with an interesting and complex topic.
Alarmism in the defense of financial misrepresentation is no vice.
My dear friend, you know I love you and I enjoy so much of your blogging. However, there is much more to this than meets the eye. Remember a few things. First, much like the Bear Stearns fiasco and the rescue(read burying of the body), we no longer live in an Adam Smith utopia. We live in a corporatocracy that will ultimately be resolved in the boardrooms. As a matter of fact, most of the damage has already been assessed and already being dealt with. Sure there will be more failures, however the "invisible hand" once so important to the viability of a market society has been replaced with the "heavy invisible hand" of the mighty institutional shareholder and hedge fund manager.
So fear not. There are no real surprises in this. Now its only the residue and what the media is allowed to report on. So stop scaring everybody. Just like war, the financial generals have already established the acceptable losses.
And I really wish you had made the distinction between S & L's and banks. But that's just me...a real picky finance major.
JAS
Exactly. We learned from 1929 that the banks could not be allowed to fail, because the result would be galloping deflation and many, many evil things. If necessary, money will be freshly minted in the Federal Reserve's vaults and rushed to the banks behind the scenes (via electrons mostly, heh!) to allow them to meet their obligations in order to keep them from collapsing. Goliaths like Bank of America or Chase Manhattan are just too big to be allowed to fail, it'd take down the whole system.
My cash money, BTW, is in a credit union. A very well run credit union that has always had stringent standards for loaning out its members' money. No toxic mortgages for these guys, that's for sure. Unless the whole economy goes to crap to the point where even those fairly safe loans aren't being repaid, my money is as safe as it can be.
-- Badtux the Finance Penguin
Hi BadTux and Jaz:
I am coming to DCap's defense on this one for a couple of reasons.
Warren Buffet, king of the boardroom, says that we are going to be in for a tough time and we are already in a recession.
Credit card balances have increased 21% this past year, to an average balance of $6,900. People are using cards to supplement their dwindling disposable incomes, and the default rate is rising dramatically. It's the cost of food and fuel.
There are 90 regional banks the feds are watching closely. They were not involved with sub prime, but loaned for developments, etc., and they represent 26 Billion dollars if they go tits up and that is just the beginning.
People who are careful with their money and make enough are not suffering yet or at all, but they are at the top 10 or 20 percent and are relatively isolated.
Banks are selling everything that isn't bolted down to secure their positions all over the world.
The Russian President, the Iranians and most leaders are painfully aware that the US is in a very precarious position. If you don't believe me, an hour with Google will open your eyes.
Right now the news media in the US is not publicizing, probably because they don't believe it or their owners are killing the stories.
Germany has been forecasting a crash or the start of a "real" recession in the late fall of this year. Germans aren't stupid when it comes down to finance.
There is a wall out there, and people never think they will hit it and become complacent. When they come face to face with that wall, they will regret they hadn't planned for this in one way or another.
Regards
Robert
There is indeed a wall out there, but it is the opposite of the wall you imply. The only way to prevent the banks from failing is inflation -- that is, printing money. Unfortunately, we've spent the past 7 1/2 years printing money (that's what issuing t-bills does, because the money that comes in exchange for t-bills goes right back out into the money supply, then THE T-BILLS ARE ESSENTIALLY MONEY because they can be used as asset backing for loans). We've about inflated our way past the point of no return, when people overseas stop accepting our increasingly-worthless dollars is when you'll see everything slam to a halt like a freight train running into rock slide coverin' the tracks. We won't be able to buy oil anymore with what pitiful foreign exchange we get from our pathetic exports, we won't be able to buy cheap shit from China anymore, things are just gonna go to hell in a handbasket *fast*.
But not for the reason you say -- the banks are not going to be allowed to collapse. Rather, it will be because of the galloping inflation of the past 7 1/2 years, that has been disguised in part because the Chinese locked their currency to ours and inflated their own currency at the same time so they could keep selling us cheap shit. But the Chinese are only doing that because they can then use the resulting dollars to buy oil, though if you look at their central bank dollar reserves galloping oil prices are depleting them rapidly. When the Middle Eastern oil barons stop accepting dollars for oil because they have all these dollars that nobody will accept for goods... BAM.
- Badtux the Apocalyptic Penguin
Hi BadTux;
I agree with your BAM part and I never took into consideration your take on the Chinese tying their currency to ours.
Regardless how its coming, I think you and I agree on the end result. It's going to be painful for a lot of people.
first
thanks for all your input -- that was great
what started really as just an explanation of the banking/bank insurance process - led to a lively discussion on economics.
as i said to you JAS on the phone -- i am not being an alarmist -- there is a real crisis coming, i was just giving one possible (albeit dramatic) scenario
will it get to 1931? who knows. my gut says no but it will be close -- only the government will do EVERYTHING and ANYTHING (with their kindred spirit in the media) to hide it.
the govt basically has 3 ways to fix the financial system - interest rates, printing money and price controls -- all three are wrought with danger and pratfalls, and all three are NOW down in a global economy, not isolated to these shores.
my big fear is that the decisions being made are done to protect corporations and hide the deep problems instead of going through the pain and repairing the damage of unbridled greed.
i wish i could just lay it all at bush's feet - but this problem has been going on since 1971 when the combination of dropping the gold standard, the first oil crisis and the continued high spending/low saving rate of the US (conspicuous consumption) started us down uncharted waters.
bush has only made it infinitely worse with an endless war paid on the visa card and ridiculous tax cuts for people who dont need tax cuts. and the dramatic rise in earmarks.
something's got to give --- hooverville's - doubtful. but a lot of pain, a lot of lost time and a huge drop in the status of the US as an economic power.
all the choices the US govt have to help fix these issues are complicated and will lead to galloping inflation and wheel barrels if not done correctly
i have ZERO confidence it will. bush did one thing right -- he made the problems drag out long enough that he will dump it onto the next guy. but it really was the war that pushed humpty dumpty over the wall, and all the Bushmen have been trying to fix him.
as long as the govt wants to protect corporations, rich people, PR and their own asses with what amounts to bad decisions from bad people - well will have some sort of meltdown.
am i an alarmist -- call me one if you want. badtux has it right. the media will NEVER EVER show it to be as bad as it is.
but there are very very few ways out of this crisis at this point
as for the media responsibility
that is anohter post
Thank you for explaining something I have been thinking about since the Fed bailed out those fuckers at Bear Stearns.
Sadly it didn't make me feel any better. But an education is priceless.
Wow. This certainly got my attention over coffee this morning. Great post.
Depressing as hell, but great.
Way ahead of ya dude. We secured our money out of the bank several months ago, just in case.
Canada is starting to look better and better.....
These are the things I think about when I can't sleep at night.
Then I don't sleep at all.
Then I freak out about money and the future.
So scary.
Point Number One: the FDIC is NOT a private corporation.
Point Number Two: The reason the Savings & Loan Crisis was called the Savings & Loan Crisis rather than the Bank Crisis is this -- Savings & Loans are not Banks.
They are legally different entities and each had its own insurance carrier. The Savings & Loan Industry was insured by the FSLIC -- the Federal Savings & Loan Insurance Corporation.
During the S&L Crisis, a large number of the country's Savings & Loan institutions failed.
The failure can be traced by to the creation of a Moral Hazard. Up to the late 1970s, each savings account was insured up to $40,000. That limit was raised to $100,000.
By raising the cap, each S&L acquired a lot of new protection against management follies.
An important regulation was also dropped. Regulation Q, which had limited the activities of Savings & Loans, was terminated. That change allowed S&Ls to compete directly with Banks and engage in non-traditional S&L activities. Big mistake.
In fact, had it not been for the obvious prudence and good sense of the BANK industry, the problems of the S&L Crisis would have been far worse. But, the FDIC was able to save the day. However, I'm sure the facts would bore you.
Meanwhile, the government, in a rare display of intelligence, made the right moves to ease the pain of the S&L Crisis.
With respect to the current problems, Investment Banks, like Bear Stearns, have been hit. But traditional Banks have weathered the mortgage problems well. That's because they maintained their underwriting standards. On the other hand, Mortgage Banks seem to have gone wild.
slappz
you make a few good points
and i was wrong about the FDIC -- it is an independent govt agency and the i didnt spell out the difference between banks and s&ls - and the FSLIC
you are right
as for banks -- they are in big trouble. citibank and wachovia are deeply hurting
d-cap,
Citibank and Wachovia are not mere Banks -- they both have extensive Investment Banking activities and this is where the trouble has arisen.
Mortgage Bankers originated mortgage securities that were sold by Investment Banks, in many cases to funds run by other I-banks.
Bear Stearns was up to its eye-balls in mortgage paper. It's a sorry situation, but it boils down to the fact that mortgage banks issued mortgages without regard for the credit-worthiness of borrowers.
In the past, lenders were criticized for tight lending standards that invariably led to few blacks and hispanics getting mortgages.
Over the last few years, the Sub-Prime mortgage market soared. But there was nothing new about it. Sub-Prime lending has always been around. GreenPoint Bank in NYC was a leader. It handed out loans to guys like dry-cleaners and store owners who ran cash businesses and didn't want to report too much to the government. GreenPoint offset its risk with large downpayments and higher interest rates. That worked well.
But that still left a lot of blacks and hispanics unable to buy houses. Then lots of programs to provide downpayment money, as well as lenders who didn't care about borrowers having some skin in the game began to operate.
Mortgage brokers working on commission began to look the other way instead of getting the hard facts on the credit-worthiness of borrowers. Guess what? Lots of blacks and hispanics and others with crappy credit got big mortgages.
The mortgage brokers figured they were handing off the mortgages to other financial entities, which limited the exposure of the mortgage banks. Thus, the sales guys felt no compunction about originating loans that might go into default.
Of course, we are now looking at a situation in which an eye-catching percentage of defaulters are black and hispanic. Thus, a new wave of resentment toward lenders has arrived. Only this time, the anger stems from the claim that some borrowers are too dumb to deserve loans. It has been claimed that lenders are predators devouring hapless borrowers who didn't know what they were doing. Whereas, in the past, lenders were accused of bias against the people who are now defaulting.
Of course, if analysts picked through the pools of mortgages that were bought by investment funds, they could have tossed out those representing properties in certain ZIP Codes. But nobody wanted to do that.
Meanwhile, there's little downside to defaulting, especially if all the neighbors are doing it.
Thanks for the very helpful information - it is a scary situation.
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