Sunday, November 30, 2008

On the Radio 1973-1979

Paris was the center of European nightlife and music during the 1920’s and 30’s. The cabarets, nightclubs and bistros of that era played swing and American jazz. When the Germans occupied France in 1940, a lot of the nightlife went “underground” often as a place for the Nazi resistance to meet. This gave birth to the first discotheques as a place that was anti-establishment, hidden, exclusionary, and with restrictive admission policies. The first discotheque arrived in New York in 1960 – Le Club in the staid upscale neighborhood of Sutton Place. It was an elite place with a small and exclusive clientele –after all there was a stiff $200 initiation fee and dues.

The discotheques in New York and Los Angeles during the mid 1960’s soon got beyond their elite status and became centers of “dance crazes.” The first big one was the Twist, made popular by a 1962 Chubby Checker recording. Other major dance crazes that followed were the Jerk and the Watusi, which had in turn given way to numerous other short-lived dance crazes. If one went to a discotheque in the mid-60’s you would see teenagers, along with adults in their thirties and forties, doing such dances as the Woodpecker, the Hitchhiker, or the Bug. Go-Go dancers in cages became the next rage – as they were originally introduced as “dance demonstrators” at Los Angeles’ Whisky-a-Go-Go.

In many ways, discotheques were just “sock hops” with a DJ instead of a jukebox. Originally DJs spun random 45s from hidden places with little regard to order or mix of the music. Soon DJs realized they could direct the mood of the crowd and build momentum that would pack the floor with dancers.

In 1966, the Cheetah opened in New York, ushering a new era for the discotheque. It was an 8,000 sq ft dance floor with a powerful sound system, live bands and an amusement park feeling. Andy Warhol took it a few steps further with mind numbing sounds, dancers dressed in leather and strobe lights. It was a multimedia extravaganza – a total sensory experience. With so much stimulation, it was inevitable that the drug culture would seep its way into the discotheque scene.

By 1969, discotheques had degenerated into seedy joints, often mob run. But in the early 1970’s, discotheques saw a rebirth from groups that had been ignored during the late 1960’s pop counterculture - newly liberated gay men, blacks and Hispanics. Together these groups redesigned and broadened the phenomenon, rebaptized it disco, and relaunched it as the most visible symbol of the nightlife of the 1970s.

While there had been discotheques in the sixties, there had been no such style as disco music. Clubs played live or recorded rock music, which had set dances like the Twist. Most rock singles of the era lasted a mere three minutes, by the time dancers “found their groove” the song was over.

To extend the dance time – DJ’s began playing longer songs that had their roots in R&B. Music historians generally considered the first disco song to be 1973’s Soul Makossa by African singer Manu Dibango. Philadelphia International Records capitalized on this new trend and put out several records in what was called the “Philly Sound.” This included the Love Train by the O’Jays, If You Don’t Know Me by Now by Harold Melvin & the Blue Notes, and When Will I See You Again by the Three Degrees. Other recordings soon hit #1 - including Love’s Theme from Barry White and Rock Your Baby from George McRae. But the real turning point for disco was in 1974, when The Hustle by Van McCoy went to the top of the pop charts and set off a nationwide craze for “touch dancing.” With The Hustle, disco’s underground development period had come to an end. The disco was now mainstream.

Disco’s stature in American culture was defined by the phenomenal success of the twin pillars from this era – Studio 54 and Saturday Night Fever.

A thriving disco subculture arose in major cities of the US. In April 1977 – the crown palace of disco opened in Manhattan- Studio 54. It was an immediate success. It was famous for its crowd (Halston, Liza, Margaret Trudeau, Bianca Jagger, and Andy Warhol), its stringent door policy (allowing women in but not their dates, counting the number of “suits,” making sure there were enough few drag queens), bans on certain groups and drugs. Studio 54 epitomized disco as the uber-snob and name-dropping media.

In December 1977, the movie Saturday Night Fever starring John Travolta, was released. The album because the biggest selling record all time (since passed) and established the stereotypes of what people today think of disco – dance floor moves, over-coiffed hair, gold chains and polyester clothing. Almost every song from the movie became a hit.

Disco definitely had a unique sound that defies a definitive description. Influences were funk, soul, R&B, latin, calypso, jazz. It was know for soaring sounds, a lot of percussion, rich orchestral accompaniment. There was rarely a lead guitar and most had a steady four-on-the-floor beat. Because disco music was designed to extend the dancing experience – record companies releasing disco music began to press long singles – 10” and 12” (which was the same as an LP). Longer songs meant longer dance time. Many songs were released in various lengths.

The biggest songs of the disco era include:

Donna Summer - Love to Love You Baby (which was like a 17 minute orgasm. Summer went to sell millions of records and then piss off the very group that made her famous – gay men), On The Radio, Last Dance
Hughes Corporation - Rock the Boat
Gloria Gaynor - Never Can Say Goodbye (a remix of the Jackson 5 hit), I Will Survive
Thelma Houston - Don't Leave Me This Way
KC and the Sunshine Band had 5 straight hits - Get Down Tonight, That’s the Way I Like It, Shake Your Bootie, I’m Your Boogie Man, Keep It Comin’ Love
Patti Labelle – Lady Marmalade
Jackson 5 - Dancing Machine
Sylvester - You Make Me Feel (Mighty Real)
Silver Convention – Fly, Robin Fly
Chic – Le Freak

The soundtrack to Saturday Night Fever, released in December 1977, turned disco into mainstream movie music and become the best selling soundtrack of all time. Dance Fever, produced by as un-disco as you can get Merv Griffin, hit the airwaves in 1975

Some people and groups tried to capitalize on the disco craze and released “disco-esque” songs –

Barry Manilow - At the Copacabana (which may be the worst record of all time)
Rod Stewart - Do Ya Think I’m Sexy
Kiss - I Was Made for Loving You
Spinners - Working My Way Back to You
ELO - Shine A Little Love
There was disco-ized Beethoven, I Love Lucy, Tangerine, Star Wars
Perry Como and Ethel Merman released disco albums
In 1978, almost 50% of all songs on the billboard charts were disco.

By 1979, the disco craze was turning into an anti-disco movement. Disco became a victim of it s own success - over-saturation, mainstreaming, hard rock disapproval, the exclusivity of the clubs and a lot of crummy music. Frank Zappa put out a satirical song – Dancin’ Fool. But July 12, 1979 is often labeled the day disco died. At Chicago’s Comiskey Park it was billed as Disco Demolition Night – where exploding records and a lot of damage signaled the beginning of the end of an era. Studio 54 closed (for the first time) on February 4, 1980. With the election of conservative Ronald Reagan in November 1980 and the appearance of AIDS – the hedonistic lifestyle (and millions of dollars in record sales) that defined disco came to a screeching halt.

Disco evolved into dance sound, a watered-down version of the disco sound popularized by the Pointer Sisters, Michael Jackson and Madonna. It also evolved into house music and techno.

But no matter how you slice it - Disco sucked. Disco still sucks. So does Kiss.

38 comments:

Lockwood said...

Yes, it most certainly did. I graduated from HS in 1977, and growing up in a small college town (Athens, OH), with the typical small-town self-conscious aspirations to "coolness," we couldn't get away from disco. Even when there wasn't dancing, it played everywhere.

When I was teaching during the early 90's (mostly freshmen in HS), I noted with dread an increasing popularity of disco with the kids- which was, in the end, fairly weak, but long-lived. I've seen another resurgence with college kids recently- there have been a couple of disco hits played here at my favorite coffee shop this evening.

My friends and I used to joke, back in the seventies, that there would be bumper stickers in the year 2000 saying, "Disco Still Sucks!" Sure enough, I saw at least a couple... definitely made 2000 a memorable year. Great post D-Cap!

Ichabod said...

Hi Cap;

The music never "spoke" to me as other forms did.

However it is subjective. Many people were weaned on it and love the sound.

I don't miss it.

Dawn on MDI said...

A few years ago I tended bar at a lesbian club in Portland, Maine, and much of the music played there would classify as "disco" only now it is called "club music" and is heavily laced with techno stuff that makes it difficult for an old fart like me (I was 37) to tell when one song ends and the next one begins. Often I could tell by the crowd changing on the dance floor as one sweaty crew retreated to find cold drinks and another crowd came in to dance to the next number. The customers were all 21 (we checked IDs very closely) but to me they all looked very, very young. But they knew the music, which sounded a whole lot like disco to me. I never mentioned it to them. I'd have never got a date if I had done that.

Mathman6293 said...

I was only a pop disco fan since I was in middle and high school during those years.

Honestly, my favorite disco memory is Disco Demolition Nite in Chicago's Old Comiskey Park. I wasn't there but the 2nd game of a double header was canceled because of the riot. I went to a game 2 days later to survey the damage.

One Fly said...

I let it pass me by and thought less of those who entered the world of disco. Damn straight it sucked Dcap.

Liberality said...

you are so right about both the disco and Kiss--they suck!

Erik Donald France said...

Well articulated, man. I was lucky to have two older sisters who blazed the trail for every type of music -- all I need do was listen to their records, including some disco.

A thing that was good aboout disco is it was happy music, and as Harvey Milk noted, you gotta give 'em hope. One of my sisters had many gay friends, and disco was a sort of group soundtrack for a while.

I personally gravitated toward punk, but what the hell. Variety makes the world go 'round.

When all else fails, break out the jazz . . .

nonnie9999 said...

disco may suck, but oh those mirror ball earrings!

Dale said...

Hahaha, I loved this post, a great history and then a howler at the end. I don't care what anyone says, I love KISS although their disco tune I could do without.

KELSO'S NUTS said...

Rad fuckin post, DCNY.

I'm from there as you know and my folks, too. They did the whole ELECTRIC CIRCUS, NINTH CIRCLE, SPATS (seedy joints mob connections) where they happened to see some pretty amazing shit: THE VELVET UNDERGROUND, MC5, WAYNE DYLAN, WAYNE KRAMER, LEONARD COHEN, PLASTIC PEOPLE OF THE UNIVERSE, JEFFERSON AIRPLANE, COMMANDER CODY and the reboppers like ORNETTE COLEMAN and PHAROH SANDERS.

I was a punk rocker when 54 (having replaced Regine's) was the main spot, followed on by Xenon. I was more into shit like The Dolls, Johnny, David Jo and Sylvain Sylvain separately also, Television, The Clash, Neon Leon, Nervus Rex, The Ramones, Teenage Jesus, Wreckless Eric, Richard Hell, X-Ray Spex, TRB, Iggy, Jayne County, Big Star, Magazine, X (until they went country), Nona Hendryx and Zero Cool, Alex Chilton, Stiff Little Fingers, Bad Brains, Buzzcocks, Gang Of Four, The Stranglers, Patti Smith, the Pistols, Generation X...lots and lotos more, but I had eclectic tastes.

I dug disoc. Many, many fine memories but you've done me wrong here, but not mentioning my top two favorite disco tunes of the 1970s: "Doctor's Orders" by CAROLE DOUGLAS and "Puff Of Smoke" by POLLY BROWN. "Soul Makossa" was indeed great "mama-ko-mama-sa...." You got GEORGE McRAE, "Everlasting Love" by CARL CARLTON and who could forget the greatest disco song of all time "Kung-Fu Fighting" by CARL DOUGLAS. Oh another good one was "TSOP" by MFSB and you included the O'JAYS and HAROLD MELVIN.

Funnily enough, there were some good disco tunes that punk rockers put out "Swaheto Woman" by DAVID JOHANSEN, "14th Street Beat" by SYLVAIN SYLVAIN, and they were more new wave but "Heart Of Glass" and "11:59" were BLONDIE disco classics.

Good, good memories, man. I went to a fancy prep school on scholarship so most of my friends could just get into to 54 no problem, but the scholarship kids we had to work out finesses. I figured out that all the velvet rope dudes were into three things: horse-racing, the Mets, and the Odd Couple reruns, so I'd got to know them all just bullshitting so I always got in. Funnily enough, two kind of rich famous guys whom I came to know later in life through the horseracing world, Calvin Klein and Barry Schwartz, were denziens there and man they did some drugs. yessir.

But that place was sick with dope. With a little charm and telling a few jokes, I could get all the coke and poppers I wanted from wealthy older ladies. I never could tolerate Locker Room or Butyl Nitrate. Gave me terrible headaches. People liked 714s and Lemmons for 54 but not me because the old adage was true: they turn women into animals and men into plants.

Besides, I always obeyed the NYC nightclub rule which prevails at all the new spots on 27th even today: If you're a guy and you can't dance, don't. I can't dance worth shit and never did.

I agree with you that THE HUSTLE was kind of the death knell. I despised CHIC. DONNA SUMMER and GLORIA GAYNOR were totally solid. Good choice with the 3 DEGREES. I liked SYLVIA ROBINSON ("Pillow Talk" was her big hit). I liked Diana Ross's occasional forays into the genre.

I didn't mind the BEE GEEs but KC AND THE SUNSHINE BAND and THE VILLAGE PEOPLE were awful.

In some ways I liked Xenon better tha 54 because Xenon came in at the tail end of the disco era and had to get clever with other shit like I first heard THE CARS, JONATHAN RICHMAN & MODERN LOVERS, JOE "KING" CARRASCO AND THE CROWNS, GRAHAM PARKER,ROCKPILE and CYNDI LAUPER there.

Very fine post.

Takes me back to adolescence which I'm proud to say I've never left and never intend to.

FranIAm said...

Holy crap - I am dancing in my kitchen.

And you know, I actually purchased that Ethel Merman disco album for a good friend once. It was in that "so-awful-it's'-great" category.

As for disco sucking- some of it yes. But I must say, as a girl who danced into the wee hours with many beautiful men, well it didn't always suck. Many happy memories too.

Karen Zipdrive said...

John Lennon liked disco music and I still like it.
For me, gay discos were the sacred arena for my coming out. We met there to dance, smoke weed, hook up and socialize.
There really was no other place for young queers to meet, so I am grateful to the advent of discos.
I just loaded my new iTouch with a couple of classic disco songs. That era will always have a special place in my heart.
So there!:P

Karen Zipdrive said...

P.S.
Whether you liked disco or not, D-Cap, you did an amazing wrap up of that era.
Thanks, baby!

darkblack said...

From a business perspective, the thing that killed Disco was the greed of the music business itself, with their addiction to saturation marketing (If a little sells a lot, a lot jammed into the distro pipeline will sell a shitload) and unwillingness to deal in a timely fashion with burgeoning trends on their own level (e.g. punk vs. 'New Wave').

Like George Clinton said, Disco was music with one stroke - 4/4, 120 bpm, pass the Sopors - highly incestuous in its production values, and not meant for deeper analysis relative to the culture it served. Most Disco acts didn't tour, so there was no secondary market outside of the clubs...And all the greedy short term dollar chasing of radio alienated the stuffing out of a conservative Rock audience who was suffering their own drought of new, yet familiar material to consume.

That said...No Boogie Oogie Oogie by Taste Of Honey, DCap?

Boy oh boy have I got news for you

;>)

toujoursdan said...

Some disco sucks but I go into nostalgic mode whenever I hear Donna Summer's "Ring My Bell" and "Bad Girls".

Ooo ooo, ahhh, beep beep!

Spartacus said...

DCap.. Awesome post. You brought back lots of good memories. But I don't think that disco really died. Living in Queens from 1978-90, I can tell you first hand that disco was very much alive through the 1980s. In fact, when I used to go clubbing out on LI in the late 80s, it was not uncommon for clubs to have separate disco and new wave dance floors.

It also lived on in several of the British "new wave" bands that had hits here. The Human League, Frankie Goes to Hollywood, and Erasure are some examples that come to mind.

Let's not forget, too, that rap music is also an offspring of the disco era, since much of the early hits used popular disco songs as background tracks. How could we forget The Sugar Hill Gang using Cool and The Gang's "Goodtimes" for "Rapper's Delight"? Sorry for the long comment. Again, great stuff.

pissed off patricia said...

Whew! That was a fast trip back in time. Brought back some good memories too.

DCup said...

Fine! But I'm keeping my sequined tube top.

Fran said...

I seemed to have checked out during the disco period. I remember the dance crazes-- the twist & the swim.
But the music always seemed cheesy & shallow to me- like a makeover for elevator music.

Funny you mentioned Barry Manilow - At the Copacabana (which may be the worst record of all time) HA ! I do remember hating that song & his forced showman schmaltzy moves. Yuck! Music hell!

I was too young to be in the dance club scene.... at that time I was hitch hiking cross country & backpacked to the bottom of the Grand Canyon.
All that polyester & glitz was revolting to me.
I'd take a Grateful Dead extended space jam any time.

Utah Savage said...

For a brief time in the mid to late seventies I ran a Disco club. I wrote a short story about it called Too Damn Big.

This is a terrific history of the phenomenon. And I still love Donna Summers.

okjimm said...

I never had a life-style that could accomadate disco, but I do remember a disco-joint during college that featured 50 cent manhattans and martinis during Happy Hour. I could get real happy for $2 and wouldn't even notice the music. I was just Staying Alive! ;)

Bustednuckles said...

Oh my God I couldn't WAIT for Disco to die!
I STILL hate that crap.

dguzman said...

I was in sixth grade when Saturday Night Fever came out, and my little boyfriend at the time fancied himself a Texas version of the Travolta character. I didn't much like the disco sound, however, and dumped him. This post brought back memories of his sloppy kisses!

I will admit, however, that Last Dance is the ultimate disco song, and I like it to this day.

I'd rather dance to pop standards sung by Ella Fitzgerald and Diana Krall myself. Much more romantic.

Citizen Carrie said...

Great post! I can thank the Disco era for turning me on to classical music and jazz during my teen years. I couldn't listen to popular music radion stations for a good three years during the late 1970's.

Dave Dubya said...

I credit disco with giving me the quest to find good music. I was already into jazz, classical and blues but still was young enough to hunger for some rock n roll.

Old stalwarts like the Stones, Zeppelin, Santana, the Dead, and the Who were still rocking well enough, but freshness was called for. And disco was not it for me.

Fortunately lots of good music popped up in the seventies.

We were rewarded with the likes of Little Feat, Dire Straits, Doobie Brothers, and Steely Dan. We had the singer/songwriters like Jim Croce, Cat Stevens and Elvis Costello. There were the second golden ages of Jeff Beck and Frank Zappa. Rock and Jazz fusion brought us new intensity for our listening and party needs.

We can't forget the good ol' Southern boys like Marshall Tucker and Charlie Daniels.

Then there was that multi-color-iscious P-Funk to move it all around. Disco's psychedelic cousin had the grooves AND the brilliant musicianship to please the ears, mind, body, and soul. Listen to "Chocolate City" for some funky prophecy.

That was all I needed to know that, "I will survive".

Disco sucked, but the seventies didn't

vikkitikkitavi said...

I think just like any other popular music, there were good and bad examples of the disco genre. Good includes Cheryl Lynn's "Got To Be Real" and "You Should Be Dancing" by the grossly underrated Bee Gees. Bad = basically anything by KC and the Sunshine Band or The Village People, and mindless trash like "Funkytown" and "Ku Fu Fighting."

Snave said...

Great post, Distributorcap!!

In "Dave Barry's Book of Bad Songs", Manilow's "Copacabana" gets good mention as one of the very worst. That book by Barry is a hilarious classic. If you are a connisieur (sp?) of bad music, READ THAT BOOK. It will have you in stitches. (As long as you are not a fan of "I Am, I Said" by Neil Diamond, anyway... he tears into that one for the lyric about "not even the chair".) I would have to agree that Rod Stewart's descent into Disco was one of the most saddening moments of my musical life... Rod, whatever happened to "Mandolin Wind"?

KELSO'S, I think I have about half of the records you mentioned in your comment. Good stuff!!

I always loathed Disco, but I love some of the stuff that was influenced by it, like the music of New Order which adopted some of those kinds of dance beats after they were Joy Division and when they became New Order... That thudding Disco beat isn't bad for me if it has an attitude. I can't take the candied-up Donna Summer type stuff! And the stuff that has survived, like "YMCA", makes me laugh out loud when all the wholesome conservative fans in the area where I live stand up and do the hand motions and sing along with it at ballgames. My hats are off to the Village People for living on in a positive way in the hearts and minds of conservatives everywhere.

I think Disco did allow for some of the more dance-oriented rock and roll bands to exist and to be popular. I'm not sure Talking Heads would have made it if Disco hadn't been around about the time they got things going. 1979, about the time Disco was in its death throes, was when David Byrne sang his famous line about "This ain't no party, this ain't no disco". His band went on to not necessarily use straight disco beats, but they were definitely into playing highly danceable music.

I'm 51, and I had just turned 21 in 1978, still during the disco craze. I hated the music, but still went to the clubs to try and score... and failed miserably. I couldn't be that "cool", couldn't get into that scene. I was always wanting to practically shave my head, dress in black, and listen to other things instead like the Velvet Underground, the Ramones or the Sex Pistols.

When I did a radio show in college when I was 19, once in a while I would start out a disco song (maybe a REALLY, REALLY BAD one like "Disco Duck" by Rick Dees) and about :30 into the song I'd run the needle across the 45 and then bust right into whatever was on the other turntable... usually something Blue Oyster Cult or King Crimson or whatnot. I liked to try and treat my listners to great, jarring shifts from the horrifically bad to the sublime. (Not that everyone would think of something like Blue Oyster Cult as sublime... they have always been a guilty pleasure of mine.)

Now when I hear "classic" Disco music I just chuckle and shake my head. I realize there are a few bands that might not have been too bad at the time. The band Heatwave comes to mind, and I would agree The Bee Gees weren't totally awful... but stuff like "I Love the Nightlife" by Alicia Bridges? AIEEEEE!!!!!

As for Kiss? Like Disco, I could never really get into Kiss either.

Snave said...

Dave Dubya, I went the same route. In 1976-77, some friends and I were driven into searching prog-rock and fusion jazz for "real music" in what seemed like a wasteland. That led to a lot of Jeff Beck, Frank Zappa, Weather Report, Return to Forever, King Crimson, Jean-Luc Ponty, etc. As you and other commentors have suggested, the disgust for Disco seems to have driven people to search out different kinds of music. At that time I also branched out into exploring bluegrass and country music, and that included Nitty Gritty Dirt Band, Jerry Jeff Walker, John Prine, Charlie Daniels, etc.

Then I moved away from the little town I grew up in, went away to college at the big university, discovered liberal politics and punk music, and all was lost! 8-)

Nowadays I still feel like I have to stay caught up with newer bands and with what's going on in the music world, but I tend to stick to independent labels and college stuff. Even being that narrow with my tastes anymore, it leads me to go one various directions as I search for new sounds. I recently heard My Bloody Valentine for the first time, and that has led me to some very cool bands like Swervedriver, Ride and Slowdive... and it leads me to newer stuff like The National, The Kooks...

There is too much great musical stuff out there, and we don't have enough ears or time to listen to it all!

Lew Scannon said...

The proudest moment of my teenage years was when I acquired my "Disco Sucks" t-shirt. Now I look back at some of the music (such as the Three Degrees) with a profound sadness and longing for a simpler time.

Distributorcap said...

i dont even know where to start....

Karen Zipdrive said...

Dude, you owe me a ton of money for all the disco songs I've added to my iPod since I first read this post:
Boogie Nights
Lady Marmalade
Bang a Gong
Flash Light
I Will Survive
Rock the Casbah
100% Pure Love
Put Your Body in It
When Doves Cry
Little Red Corvette
Billy Jean
L-O-L-A
Take a Walk on the Wildside
Burning Down the House
They may not all be pure disco but they were all played at the clubs I went to, and to me that means disco.

Gosh, now I'm missing my shiny jackets with the huge shoulderpads and the platform shoes that made me 5'11".

Karen Zipdrive said...

And furthermore, I'll give you that KISS sucks. When I see Gene Simmons on TV he reminds me of liver lipped Oscar Levant from the '50s.
I am continually amazed that he thinks he's still hot--as if he ever was.
And those hair plugs--just dreadful.
If he looked like his true age, he'd be hanging at a Florida retirement village wearing plaid golf pants and chasing Sly Stallone's mother in a HoverRound.

Mauigirl said...

I always hated disco at the time. The funny thing is now that it's so far in my past, it's like a trip down memory lane when I hear it! I have to admit every one of those songs in your list reminds me of that era and therefore I have developed a fondness for them borne of nostalgia.

Zappa's "Dancin' Fool" was hilarious.

Interesting history of the whole scene and also of the way it evolved into house music, etc.

Demeur said...

I remember all of that. Even went to Cheetahs on summer vacation back in 66. It's all just a fad. Everybody trying to find the next "cool". For me music is like the bookmarks of our memories, some good and some bad.
I must say DCap you never fail to amaze me how you bring back memories.

Randal Graves said...

I can't believe I read an entire post on disco. You owe me, man! ;-)

Chris said...

Please god, when will rap become a victim of it's own success? :)

KELSO'S NUTS said...

@ GRAVES: The first year the Jints won the Super Bowl with Phil Simms at QB and everybody was saying how much better he was than Elway and Marino and how Simms was maybe the best of all time, Allen Barra in the Voice had a great bust.

He wrote that it's just recency with Simms because he'd won the previous years Super Bowl and to list him with Bart Starr and Joe Namath was like it being the fall of 1973 and your three top songs of all-time were "Gimme Shelter," "Subterranean Homesick Blues" and "Kung Fu Fighting".

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